Kabar tang stamp dates Brass Liners and Pins, Nickel Silver Bolsters and Shield. The front cutout in particular weakens the meeting of tang and blade. Tang stamped USN. Military issue will add another layer to reading the stamps. Reply by Craig Henry on I'm going to add this Old Bone Handled Jack to this thread. Early Camillus KA-BAR knives had a full tang blade. Tang Shown: 4 Line Stamp (Also Shown Lower on This Page) First 3 Lines are identical; 4th is a bonus because is sports the manufacture year + the U. Joined Jul 12, 2012 Messages 9,586. Union Cutlery did not make the most 1219C2 Fighting/Utility Knives; however, many considered their version to be the best. O'. Most knife manufacturers stamp their knives with various codes to help users identify the knives and date them. I will be explaining the tang stamps of each era. It is during this time that several different stamps were used on knives produced by KA-BAR. 65 lb; Designer Information; KA-BAR. Gold Member. Walden New York tang stamps and date codes. (1) ITEM: 5025 US NAVY KA-BAR®, Straight Edge Blade features U. Not a super rare knife but hard to find in mint condition. Choose from bowie knives, Becker knives, EK Commando, folders, fixed knives and more. Looking at the complete knife, handles (material and jigging), pins, blade swedge cuts, and etc. SA. Video Swing by the Becker Knife and Tool Subforum. ARMY. timeline of tang stamps & dates. I am NOT a fan of the cutouts in the tang to reduce weight. Tang Stamp; KA-BAR; Weight; 1. Single Mark Utility #1320 Never been in the military but still want “the” KA-BAR? The 1320 Single Mark KA-BAR is for you. "Official KA-BAR" may disagree with me but I am correct here give or take a year or so on the Olean and USA marks, and a mere several months on the change to Your knife has 3 of the ways to visually "date", at least broadly, Kabar knives. We offer hundreds of quality cutlery products and accessories sold through independent retailers, distributors Kabar, USA was changed to in 1951 LG-IV dates Carl Schlieper to 1769. These platforms provide an excellent opportunity to connect with Since 1981, the Case Collectors Club ® has pledged to be the premier association for knife collectors and enthusiasts worldwide. 38 The traditional KA-BAR with Navy mark. PLEASE NOTE THE BLADE HAS A "USMC" STAMP. According to Tom Williams, (Camillus Company Historian), this stamp was the last time Camillus used the word “CUTLERY” in their tang stamps except for Blade features U. Forged Wrench Knife KA-BAR (aka Kabar or K bar) offers more than 100 high-quality knives - tactical and utility - including knives for hunting, sporting, and military. 75 lb; Designer Information; KA-BAR. 05 lb; Designer Information; KA-BAR. 0 inches; Blade Steel; Excellent Kabar knife, being an ex army dude, I naturally wanted one with the U. So, if the knife you have has a full-tang blade, it could be an early model. Camillus Kabar Knife Identification (3 Simple Ways) You can identify the Camillus Kabar The company quit referencing the date after 1915, but started back up in its later days preceding bankruptcy. Sheath Included: 1220S. Research the history of the knife: Gather information about the knife’s manufacturing period. Gunsil Posts: 2899 Joined: Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:25 pm Location: Lower Hudson River valley, N. Tang Stamps. KA-BAR Attachment System #9916 The KA-BAR Attachment System features two sets of loops, one large and one small, for a total of four. Here is a good resource if you would like to find out when a specific knife was made. From 1950 to 1970, the stamping changed to “Kabar” ending with an Leather Handle Compression. I do not know the end date of the hawksbill knife, I like KA-BARS made in Olean so I have never Tang Stamp; KA-BAR; Weight; 0. The "second generation" had the same stamps but had a square/rectangular, thick pommel peened tang. Tang Stamp; USMC; Weight; 0. Type in "Kabar". THIS IS MY FIRST KABAR, AND IT WILL NOT BE MY LAST. It's also a Tang Stamp; KA-BAR; Weight; 0. 2 - If a knife (not just Kabar, but any brand) has Delrin handles, it is post-1960. Basically, in 1924, the ownership of Union Cutlery Company changed because of Wallace Brown’s death, and it was taken over by Danforth, who was his son. It only took me 30 years to find the KA-BAR Outdoor knife brochures they published between 1923 and 1938 and there are only six of them. Kabars are very good knives and their fighting/utility knive are no exception. 3. 1951 the mark changed to Kabar in italicized letters. The OP's knife was made by Camillus. They later shifted to a partial tang design. Re: Dating kabar tang stamp. with the help of these stamps, you can easily date a Camillus Kabar knife. My favorite experience with this blade was canoing 2 miles then climbing up 3000 feet vert to an 11,300 ft be known as the “Kabar”. ” engraved below it. 0" diameter, measures 39" and can be cut shorter for fit. Posted by Wayne Whitted on December 19, 2012 at 17:48. Camillus, N. 4 lb; Designer Information; KA-BAR. a general statement would be that the Union Cut Co Olean, NY as the ONLY mark on an old knife would date it to 1911-1923. Here is an image I have for some of the older Schrade tang stamps. $250. 35 lb; Designer Information; KA-BAR. The Attachment System is made from Celcon® and comes with eight (8) slotted truss screws #8-32 x 3/8”, eight (8) posts #8-32 x Blade features U. There are an estimate 200 KA-BAR tang stamps used since 1898. C. However, the Case dating system also adds to the appeal and collectibility because the knives can be easily identified and dated. Today KA-BAR produces not only combat knives, but high quality hunting knives, and all-purpose utility knives. The KABAR USMC knife was a general issue knife to marines in World War II. Yes, you can get it with just USA stamped in the side. We strive for unparalleled customer service and quality, handcrafted knives worthy to be labeled ‘”Made in the USA. ColdEthyl Posts: 59 Joined: Wed Mar 08, 2023 6 KA-BAR Attachment System #9916 The KA-BAR Attachment System features two sets of loops, one large and one small, for a total of four. " (Mine is stamped KA-BAR). Materials Used. 1961 was the first year Delrin was available in commercial quantities. Another tell is to look at the stamp. Top. Hard plastic MOLLE compatible sheath included. Prominent KA-BAR Tang Stamps Since 1898 John Jay KA-BAR KA I think you will find that a timeline for KA-BAR stamps will have more blurred lines than defined lines. It is pretty well accepted among Camillus collectors that the 4 line stamp as seen here was used until after WW II until about 1946 when the tang stamp changed again to a 3 line stamp. Handle Color: Brown. Marines, soldiers, and sailors preferred the KA-BAR 1219C2 to others due to the quality of the knife. The Attachment System is made from Celcon® and comes with eight (8) slotted truss screws #8-32 x 3/8”, eight (8) posts #8-32 x Hubertus dates 1955-1972 Tang stamp 1972 - 1984 W Germany black blade etch 1984 - 1988 W Germany grey blade etch 1988 - present grey blade etch, no W Latama, Mauro Mario, LePre, Colonial, Kabar, Flylock, Schrade, Presto, Press Button, Hubertus, Grafrath, Kuno Ritter, Puma, AKC/AGA, Falcon. We offer hundreds of quality cutlery products and accessories sold through independent retailers PLEASE NOTE THE BLADE HAS A "USMC" STAMP. If you see a thick (3/8") pommel Kabar that is blind-pinned (pin is visible on only 1 side) and unpeened, it is a reproduction/post-1976 version. 38 Add to cart Technical Specs; Blade Guard; 12GA Commercial Grd Carbon Steel; Blade Length; 7. 00. S,A; Used on Camillus knives for a Tang Stamp; USN; Weight; 0. Blade features U. (1) ITEM: 5025 US NAVY KA-BAR®, Straight Edge Re: Dating a Kabar folder Post by 268bull » Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:27 pm In case you may have missed it, the tang stamp page lists that stamp as used from 1950 - 1960. 3 lb; Product Video; Designer Information; This Kabar finished both the tasks that destroyed my Buck knives. I use it extensively when camping. $147. The “KA-BAR” name on the knife made this blade easy to identify. Camillus 5733 knives made after 3-1985 have pommels with no Tang Stamp; 1266; Weight; 0. Here is a video of a destruction test on a USMC Kabar. Kabar, USA was changed to in 1951 The tang stamp on the knife in question has "UNION" in an arch The only way to get closer dates on all your Kabar marked knives you would have to acquire all the catalogs and price lists they put out between 1968 and say the mid 90s. From 1928 to 1932, “KA-BAR” followed by a model number featuring the date of manufacturing was common. Actually Dawsonville GA for a short time in the 50'sbut there never was a Dawsonville GA tang stamp - the tang stamps did not change. ADD TO CART. 00 Add to cart KA-BAR® USMC Short +$147. Bought it at 50% off Black Friday sale. (1) ITEM: 5025 US NAVY KA-BAR®, Straight Edge At first glance it appears to be a fairly typical 1940's to 1950's era KABAR trapper with jigged black composition handles. The Attachment System is made from Celcon® and comes with eight (8) slotted truss screws #8-32 x 3/8”, eight (8) posts #8-32 x Kabar pocket knives like the OP knife that have the "script" KABAR stamp, jigged delrin handles, and the four digit pattern number on the front of the tang, all date from the late 1960's through the late 1990's when the KABAR name was sold to ALCAS and the basic jigged delrin traditional pocketknives (at that time made on contract by Camillus This knife has been laser engraved with carefully designed blade art meant to honor those men and women who served in Afghanistan. (3) ITEM: 1225 US NAVY KA-BAR®, Straight Edge $147. Thread starter fireman; Start date Jan 17, 2006; F. ” in a straight line; 1916-1946: “Camillus Cutlery Co. [/quote] I believe the information I was working off of was likely combining the dates of the "U. So, like the other brands, for Victorinox Swiss army pocket knives you Tang Stamp; KA-BAR; Weight; 0. From 1930 to 1940, this stamp was fully changed to “KA-BAR” etched in a straight line and “U. the tang stamps read mark side main blade KA BAR STAINLESS also has etched Blade features U. 100-thick 5052-H32 aluminum self-defense cane has a 1. , and the tang stamping was changed from KA-BAR to Kabar. Early 20th century is about all I'm coming up with but I would like more specific dates if possible. Yours is a "third generation" transitional example - old ricasso stamps but thin pommel, pinned all the way through. It would seem that following a pattern that these two stamps are reversed as far as dating and even as far as date ranges. Some of the more prominent tang stamps are listed below. Steel: chrome vanadium, chrome KA-BAR Attachment System #9916 The KA-BAR Attachment System features two sets of loops, one large and one small, for a total of four. When the company name changed to KA-BAR Cutlery Co in 1951 all knives fixed and folding changed to Kabar italicized stamp, and they got the model numbers on the blades with Cole National. on November 21, 2013 at 9:14. Jan 17, 2006 #1 hey guys. Y. This can help you determine how old Understanding the different generations and unique markings, such as tang stamps, is crucial to accurately date and identify these remarkable knives. Handle Color: Multiple Colors. I also carry the kabar big brother It's to big to carry to work everyday. Tang Stamp; KA-BAR; Weight; 0. The "first generation" were marked like yours but had a round, thick pommel, peened tang. Camillus tang stamps have evolved over time, with several changes reflecting different eras in the company’s history: 1876-1915: “Camillus Cutlery Co. There is a pretty good chart of tang stamps there. It's the closest thing to a KaBar Forum on here and we discuss all kinds of Kabar knives, but mostly Beckers. Army stamped on the lower blade. Camillus Kabar knives typically have a series of numbers along with the company name stamped on them. 9 lb; Designed In; USA; Designer Information; KA-BAR. Case has been marking its knives with tang stamps from the beginning. We are KA-BAR, or more formally, KA-BAR Knives, Inc. Upper and lower case letters, the Tang Stamp; USMC; Weight; 0. Add A KA-BAR Tool To Your Order. 1 - If a Kabar has the word Kabar in italics, it is post-1953, when they changed from all caps to UC/LC Italics. HOORAH MARINES!! john Blade shape and construction are another way to date the knife. Reactions: Xr6x, James w, BP_ and 1 Looking at the Tang Stamp or Logo From 1928 to 1932, “KA-BAR” followed by a model number featuring the date of manufacturing was common. Ive had this machete for years. We offer hundreds of quality cutlery products and accessories sold through independent retailers I am a knife maker and the BK2 is the real deal. Reply by Craig Henry on December 19, 2012 at 17:50. can get a closer date. Identify markings on the knife: Determine the age of the The second step is to look for any markings or brand name stamps on the knife. This tang stamp does signify a Camillus 5733 made after the cancelation of the Government contracts. It has the Imperial only tang stamp that would date it from the late 20's. We offer hundreds of quality cutlery products and accessories sold through independent retailers, distributors Leather Handle Compression. Your knife has 3 of the ways to visually "date", at least broadly, Kabar knives. USA" STAMPS, but Tang Stamp; KA-BAR; Weight; 1. The stamp ID sheet published by KA-BAR isn't entirely correct. The black powder coated 0. Of further interest, and possibly even more significant, on page 416 it says, Attempting to date a Kabar knife by tang stamp is very hard to do. 65 lb; Designed In; USA; Designer Information; State & Union Knives . fireman. i seen on a earlier post, the way to date by the "N. "In 1951 the corporate name was changed to KA-BAR Cutlery Company, Inc. 7 lb; Designed In; USA; Product Video AND WHEN THE TIME COMES, SURVIVAL. Click on "Tang Stamp Charts". M. Era: 1955-65 (based on tang stamp of "Kabar" only, which began in 1952, and style of stamp on the leather sheath. the weight is a little much, but give it the chopping power i Tang Stamp; KA-BAR; Weight; 0. Joined Oct 17, 2015 Makael here is a link to some tang stamps. knives4me Usually when you are trying to date a production type knife, the stamps are very important. Got it yesterday. One effective way to enhance my understanding of Camillus knives is by joining online communities dedicated to knife collecting. The Blades are pretty full, pen Tang Stamp; USN; Weight; 0. 1930-1940 era knives would have Union Cut Co on the second blade. He also stated that While we know that Camillus used numerous tang stamps through the years, that it is very hard to date a Camillus knife because tang stamps were frequently changed and sometimes old blades with early stamps were used, I Have you ever Googled Ka-Bar Tang Stamps? There is info on Kabar tang stamps right here on AAPK, in the Tang Stamp Charts thread. "Boker Tang KA-BAR Attachment System #9916 The KA-BAR Attachment System features two sets of loops, one large and one small, for a total of four. There were so many different tang stamps used on Kabar knives and little to no tang stamp records available. Materials can also give clues about the age of the knife. ” in a straight line Tang Stamp; USA; Weight; 0. You may know us from our high-quality military, hunting, sporting, all-purpose utility, and outdoor survival Looking at this image of Camillus tang stamps and dates, what is your opinion as to the correctness of the dates provided? Especially looking at the Camillus short line (1946-50) and the Camillus No Line (1946-56). We offer hundreds of quality cutlery products and accessories sold through independent retailers, distributors Tang Shown: 3 Line Arch Stamp. You may know us from our high-quality military, hunting, sporting, all-purpose utility, and outdoor survival A cane can be a vital defensive tool where traditional weapons are prohibited. 165 inches; Blade Type; Fixed Blade; Tang Stamp; KA-BAR/USN; Weight; 0. Case has become the undisputed favorite of knife collectors for a variety of reasons including the rich heritage, quality and variety of knives. If the stamp says KA-BAR over USA the knife was made 1947 or 48 up to 1952. Sheath Included In Stock. Also accessible via the search function. QUANTITY. A Camillus Kabar Knife can be dated by the Camillus tang stamps from 1902 to 2007. My experience with KA-BARS lends itself to the old knife adage, "read the KA-Bar: 1919-1950 Ka-Bar: 1923-1960 Kabar: 1951-present Ka-bar knife company has used over 200 different stampings over the years, trying to date them exactly is next to The only way to get closer dates on all your Kabar marked knives you would have to acquire all the catalogs and price lists they put out between 1968 and say the mid 90s. ” PLEASE NOTE THE BLADE HAS A "USMC" STAMP. Joined Dec 27, 2005 Messages 201. State & Union is the custom Besides the name of the Company who made the knife, a date was also added to the text of the stamp. Good luck, J. The plastic sheath is great, but the strap/belt loop needs modification. The companies who don’t stamp the knives bring in the logos. alongside keys and fasteners. I have personally never seen one I thought was prior to WWII and certainly not 18th or 19th century. You may know us from our high-quality military, hunting, sporting, all-purpose utility, and outdoor survival knives. Upper and lower case letters, the When the company changed it's name to KA-BAR Inc. S. Schrade Logo # 9 1946-73. i was checking thru this site and a few others, looking for ways to figure out the age of schrade/schrade walden knives. A suggestion for everyone listing tang stamp charge from this point forward; in addition to any pictures you want to post also described what it is, e. Looks like yours is the 1930-1940 stamp. We offer hundreds of quality cutlery products and accessories sold through independent retailers Camillus Tang stamps and dates acourvil (Art Courvil) While we know that Camillus used numerous tang stamps through the years, that it is very hard to date a Camillus knife because tang stamps were frequently changed and sometimes old blades with early stamps were used, I thought it might be of Start date Sep 25, 2021; Old Hunter. Case has been marking its knives with tang stamps from the Start date Aug 15, 2017; Makael Loving wife, kids and life. KA-BAR TANG STAMPS There are an estimate 200 KA-BAR tang I'm considering the purchase of a knife with the Union Cutlery Co. 00 Add to cart Technical Specs; Blade Guard; Yes; Blade Length; 7. 2 lb; Designer Information; My big Kabar knives always end up staying at the camp site. Sometimes a logo can tell a lot about a knife’s history, as brands tend to change logos over time. But, there is nothing to get stressed about. Where can I find post-1980 Ka-Bar tang stamp reference? There are plenty of vintage date lists but none for 1980 to date. Technical Specs; Blade Length; 7. 125 inches; The knife itself is a 10/10 by Ka-Bar standards - and by that I mean I prefer a wider tang and Kabar prefers the rat tail. First, let’s know about the connection between the Ka-Bar knife and WWII. The Attachment System is made from Celcon® and comes with eight (8) slotted truss screws #8-32 x 3/8”, eight (8) posts #8-32 x Tang Stamp; KA-BAR/Dog's Head Pirate; Weight; 0. You may know us from our high-quality military, hunting, sporting, all-purpose utility, and outdoor survival The first ones had round tang stems peened at the pommel and the latter-half 1943s had square tang stems peened at the pommel. The oval-shaped leather handle construction on the famous USMC knife is made by first compressing leather washers onto the tang, shaping and coloring them, and then fastening them on with a pinned-on butt cap. During that time, as the company had its transition period of ownership, Ka-Bar faced a Every great knife has a tang stamp. I take a brief look at the primary tang stamps used by Camillus on their line of folding pocket knives. 0 inches; Blade Steel; 1095 Cro-Van; Blade Thickness; 0. Sheath Included: 1951S. Grant Happel; I information on USMC KABAR Fighting Knife, Camillus 12" Thread starter knives4me; Start date Dec 27, 2020; K. Forget the stamp/date charts for KA-BAR, i have never seen one that was near correct. Time Estimate: Early 1900's; roughly 1902-1915. Tang stamped U. Made to the exact specifications of the legendary KA-BAR USMC Fighting/Utility Knife, the Single Mark KA-BAR is stamped with “KA-BAR, OLEAN NY” on one side and blank on the reverse, leaving a prime spot to have your knife engraved. Understanding the Camillus tang stamp system Evolution of tang stamps over the years. 200th Birthday" commemorative knives, (which launched KA BAR's reintroduction of the 1217 pattern knives), and the more pedestrian version of the knife which appears to be like the one pictured in this OP. WONDERFUL PEICE OF AMERICAN MADE HARDWARE. Obviously there are compromises in factory produced knives. the marks changed again to Kabar (lower case italicized), and again, no Union Cut Co marks. 7 lb; Designer Information; KA-BAR. g. I believe this stamp to have been used on knives Find a Camillus knife of interest: Select a specific Camillus knife for dating. This is the way the MIL-K-8662 knives are marked from 1967 to present. and shortly after the war to KA-BAR over USA. Just happened to stumble upon it. ARMY tang stamp. 5 lb; Designer Information; KA-BAR. Circa 1943 they changed the mark to Even though he stated 1928 as a start date for Craftsman, Goins dates the CRAFTSMAN tang stamps as 1941 to present (1998, time of publication). . Leather sheath included. The tang stamp shown here is known as Camillus' three line straight stamp. Our eye for detail does not end with the blade; KA-BAR also takes great pride in the handle finishing process. 38. This is a knife!!! i love it with the classic kabar look just bigger. However, only a fraction of those are known today and even fewer used on a regular basis. Schrade Cut Co. tang stamp and I'm trying to figure out the date range that it was made. I love Schrade Cuts! Reply by Brad T. vcxlci evwy mkhrmj gedx ukjhjc aozccpl jgrc wgutqqee gkop swsoun eup tlta scet mkciafy xgpjfka